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    FBI agents under investigation for possible misconduct

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    BEND – An FBI agent is suspected of lying about firing twice at Robert "LaVoy" Finicum and may have gotten help from four other FBI agents in covering up afterward, authorities revealed Tuesday.

    The bullets didn't hit Finicum and didn't contribute to his death, but now all five unnamed agents, part of an elite national unit, are under criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department. Inspector General Michael Horowitz is leading the independent inquiry.

    The remarkable disclosure came as a team of local investigators released findings that two state troopers shot Finicum three times in the back during the chaotic scene at a police roadblock Jan. 26. One bullet pierced his heart, an autopsy showed.
    seems like all is not what it seems to be according to the govt's narrative ...
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    Legislators Blast DOJ Double Standard: Rancher Finicum vs. Occupy Leftists

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...cupy-leftists#

    Seven state legislators from Arizona have called upon the attorneys general of the states of Arizona, Nevada “and any other states with standing,” to bring legal action against Oregon law-enforcement officials and prosecutors, as well as against the FBI, over the shooting death this past January of Arizona rancher Robert Lavoy Finicum.

    In a letter to Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich and Nevada Attorney General Adam Paul Laxalt, the Arizona lawmakers contrast the extreme treatment accorded Finicum, the Bundy ranching family, and their supporters versus the kid-glove treatment given to the violent and destructive leftist demonstrators of the various “Occupy” movements.

    “Over the past 7-years, the U.S. Attorney General and the U.S. Justice Department have established a track record of repeatedly filing civil rights complaints, often in support of known criminals, typically against law enforcement officials and state and local governments,” says the letter dated May 20, 2016, on the letterhead of Arizona State Representative Bob Thorpe. “However,” the letter continues, “in the case of unarmed Arizona rancher Mr. LaVoy Finicum, who was shot 3-times in the back by Oregon law enforcement officials at a traffic stop, and his associates who are currently being held, charged and facing inaccurate and exaggerated charges, the Federal Government has not demonstrated any interest in protecting the guaranteed Constitutional and civil rights of these Arizona and Nevada citizens.”

    “Whether you agree or disagree with their tactics of occupying public land within an Oregon wildlife refuge for 41-days,” note the legislators, “Finicum and his associates were merely exercising their Constitutionally guaranteed 1st Amendment rights of free speech, to peaceably assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

    The legislators’ letter continues, pointing out the obvious, politically motivated differences in the federal government’s actions toward the protesters:

    In order to keep this in context, none of the thousands of individuals involved in the politically motivated 4-month takeover of the Wisconsin State Capitol from February 14 – June 16, 2011, or the encampment and protests by the Occupy Wall Street movement that started on September 17, 2011 and lasted for many, many months, were treated in a similar manner. In both of these cases, that lasted dramatically longer than the Oregon wildlife refuge occupation of public land, considerable property damage occurred, and yet no individuals were shot, jailed or charged in a similar manner to those individuals within Oregon.

    It should also be noted that the Wisconsin State Capitol takeover and the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations involved violence, threats, and intimidation, massive disruptions of official government operations, as well as hindrance of private transportation, disruption of private business, and damage to and destruction of private property. Contrast that with the Oregon wildlife sanctuary occupation, which took place out in the boondocks, did not inconvenience anyone, or cause any property damage.

    The letter from Representative Thorpe is cosigned by Senator Don Shooter and Representatives Brenda Barton, Sonny Borrelli, Regina Cobb, Mark Finchem, and Jay Lawrence. It continues:

    Similar to the IRS targeting scandal, it has been suggested that the noticeable difference between the Wisconsin and Occupy Wall Street occupations and the Oregon occupation is that the former was typically comprised of labor union and liberal individuals who are politically aligned with President Obama, and the later was typically comprised of conservative individuals who are not.

    According to Thomas Jefferson, our 3rd U.S. President and author of the Declaration of Independence, "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." Simply by exercising their Constitutionally guaranteed 1st Amendment rights, the late Finicum and his jailed and charged associates continue to face what some are calling government tyranny.

    “It is the duty of the Attorneys General of the States of Arizona, Nevada and any other states with standing, to file civil rights complaints with the U.S. Justice Department against the Oregon law enforcement officials and prosecutors, and against the Federal Bureau of Investigation,” say the legislators. “Arizona and Nevada must ensure that their citizens are treated in a fair, transparent and legal manner, and that Oregon law enforcement officials justly face at a minimum manslaughter charges, and that FBI agents justly face at a minimum attempted manslaughter and falsifying evidence charges.”
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    Update: Partial Verdict Reached in Takeover of Oregon Wildlife Refuge

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    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/27...-standoff.html

    Jury acquits leaders of Oregon standoff of federal charges

    PORTLAND, Ore. – The leaders of an armed group who seized a national wildlife refuge in rural Oregon were acquitted Thursday in the 41-day standoff that brought new attention to a long-running dispute over control of federal lands in the U.S. West.

    A jury found brothers Ammon and Ryan Bundy not guilty of possessing a firearm in a federal facility and conspiring to impede federal workers from their jobs at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, 300 miles southeast of Portland where the trial took place. Five co-defendants also were tried one or both of the charges.

    Despite the acquittal, the Bundys were expected to stand trial in Nevada early next year on charges stemming from another high-profile standoff with federal agents. Authorities rounding up cattle at their father Cliven Bundy's ranch in 2014 because of unpaid grazing fees released the animals as they faced armed protesters.

    The brothers are part of a Nevada ranching family embroiled in a lengthy fight over the use of public range, and their occupation drew an international spotlight to a uniquely American West dispute: federal restrictions on ranching, mining and logging to protect the environment. The U.S. government, which controls much of the land in the West, says it tries to balance industry, recreation and wildlife concerns to benefit all.

    The armed occupiers were allowed to come and go for several weeks as authorities tried to avoid bloodshed seen in past standoffs.

    The confrontations reignited clashes dating to the so-called Sagebrush Rebellion of the late 1970s, when Western states such as Nevada tried to win more control of vast federal land holdings.

    The group began occupying the bird sanctuary in remote southeastern Oregon on Jan. 2. They objected to prison sentences handed down to Dwight and Steven Hammond, two local ranchers convicted of setting fires. They demanded the government free the father and son and relinquish control of public lands to local officials.

    Ammon Bundy gave frequent news conferences and the group used social media in a mostly unsuccessful effort to get others to join them.

    The Bundys and other key figures were arrested in a Jan. 26 traffic stop outside the refuge that ended with police fatally shooting Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, an occupation spokesman. Most occupiers left after his death, but four holdouts remained until Feb. 11, when they surrendered after a lengthy negotiation.

    At trial, the case was seemingly open-and-shut. There was no dispute the group seized the refuge, established armed patrols and vetted those who visited.

    "Ladies and gentlemen, this case is not a whodunit," Assistant U.S. Attorney Ethan Knight said in his closing argument, arguing that the group decided to take over a federal workplace that didn't belong to them.

    On technical grounds, the defendants said they never discussed stopping individual workers from accessing their offices but merely wanted the land and the buildings. On emotional grounds, Ammon Bundy and other defendants argued that the takeover was an act of civil disobedience against an out-of-control federal government that has crippled the rural West.

    Federal prosecutors took two weeks to present their case, finishing with a display of more than 30 guns seized after the standoff. An FBI agent testified that 16,636 live rounds and nearly 1,700 spent casings were found.

    Bundy testified in his defense, spending three days amplifying his belief that government overreach is destroying Western communities that rely on the land.

    He said the plan was to take ownership of the refuge by occupying it for a period of time and then turn it over to local officials to use as they saw fit.

    Bundy also testified that the occupiers carried guns because they would have been arrested immediately otherwise and to protect themselves against possible government attack.

    Ryan Bundy, who acted his own attorney, did not testify.

    Authorities had charged 26 occupiers with conspiracy. Eleven pleaded guilty, and another had the charge dropped. Seven defendants chose not to be tried at this time. Their trial is scheduled to begin Feb. 14.

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    Goes to show how much the people are tired of the government.
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    The gov keeps pissing on the people they will loose all cases like this. People are fed up with double standards of hate groups getting away with worse activities and getting paid to do it! Let the rebellion begin!!
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    Bundy brothers remain jailed

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/28...courtroom.html


    from the article ...

    U.S. District Judge Anna Brown said she could not release Bundy because he still faces charges in Nevada stemming from an armed standoff at his father Cliven Bundy's ranch two years ago.
    U.S. Attorney Daniel Bogden in Nevada, however, said the acquittals in Portland should have no effect in the Las Vegas case. "The Oregon case and charges are separate and unrelated to the Nevada case and charges," Bogden said.
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    Update: Jury splits verdicts

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/...6631489192757/

    March 10 (UPI) -- An Oregon jury rendered split verdicts on Friday in the second criminal trial stemming from the weeks-long occupation at a wildlife refuge last year.

    Jurors convicted two and acquitted two in the case, all on conspiracy charges.

    Accused organizer Jason Patrick and security member Darryl Thorn were found guilty of conspiring to use force to prevent federal officials from doing their jobs at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The other two, Duane Ehmer, 46, and Jake Ryan, 28, were acquitted.

    Jurors deliberated for three days before issuing the verdicts.

    "Life goes on. I was there at the refuge, and I rode my horse on the game refuge," Ehmer said. "I'm heading home to go ride my ponies for a couple months, and then I'm going to take my mom fishing."

    Patrick, 43, and Thorn, 32, each face up to six years in prison. All four still face misdemeanor charges stemming from the siege. A judge is expected to issue her rulings on those charges at a later date.

    Prosecutors offered Thorn a plea deal that would have resulted in a misdemeanor and no jail time, but he ultimately turned it down.

    The four men joined several others for 41 days in January and February of 2016, occupying the wildlife sanctuary as a protest against federal ownership and management of land. One member was killed during the ordeal and the leader, Ammon Bundy, was acquitted of conspiracy charges last fall.

    Bundy, 41, who faces unrelated prosecution in Nevada for a 2014 standoff there, testified during the trial last month as to the motive for taking over the Malheur refuge.

    More than two dozen people who participated in the standoff were charged with the same conspiracy count. Bundy, his brother, Ryan, and five others were all acquitted in October. Eleven pleaded guilty to the charge but have since expressed a desire to withdraw their pleas.

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    Update: mistrial ...

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/20...ven-bundy.html

    Case against Cliven Bundy, Nevada rancher involved in 2014 armed standoff, declared a mistrial

    A federal judge declared a mistrial Wednesday in the case of a Nevada rancher accused of leading an armed standoff against the government in 2014, blaming prosecutors for withholding key evidence from defense lawyers, including records about the conduct of FBI and Bureau of Land Management agents.

    Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro in Las Vegas dismissed a jury seated last month for the long-awaited trial of Cliven Bundy, his sons Ryan and Ammon Bundy and self-styled Montana militia leader Ryan Payne.

    The decision is the latest in a string of failed prosecutions in Nevada and Oregon against those who have opposed federal control of vast swaths of land in Western states.

    Jurors acquitted the two Bundy sons of taking over a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon for more than a month in early 2016 and amid calls for the U.S. government to turn over public land to local control.

    In the Nevada case, Navarro faulted federal prosecutors for failing to turn over all evidence to defense attorneys.

    "The government is obligated to disclose all evidence that might be favorable" to the defense, the judge said.

    The case stemmed from an armed confrontation that capped a decades long dispute over Cliven Bundy's refusal to pay grazing fees. The 71-year-old rancher says his family has grazed cattle for more than a century in the area and insists public land belongs to states, not the U.S. government.

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    Update: Nevada judge dismisses case against Cliven Bundy and sons

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...018-story.html

    A federal judge ruled Monday that the federal government may not retry Cliven Bundy and his sons after rebuking prosecutors for withholding evidence during their felony trial stemming from an armed standoff four years ago.

    U.S. District Court Judge Gloria Navarro declared a mistrial in the case last month, saying federal prosecutors willfully withheld evidence that lawyers for the Bundys and alleged co-conspirator Ryan Payne should have had access to while mounting their defense.

    She said the attorneys were in violation of the Brady rule, which requires prosecutors to disclose evidence that could be favorable to a defendant, and told them it wasn’t possible to proceed with the case.

    On Monday, she dismissed the case “with prejudice,” meaning the government cannot retry the defendants. "The court finds that the universal sense of justice has been violated," Navarro said.

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    Glad they had a judge with a conscience and a spine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krat View Post
    Glad they had a judge with a conscience and a spine.
    only because the prosecutions case was so corrupted. this judge did everything in her power aside from falling on her sword to make this prosecution happen
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    Well in that case, I retract the conscience and spine statement, and change it to "glad they got lucky"

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    I watched a video of that "execution". For all intents and purposes... I feel that's pretty much what it was.

    It was an aerial video and not very high quality, but there were a few things I feel I know for certain after watching it. Bear in mind, this is personal thought and speculation from one man's visual perspective and I could be wrong, but I feel them to be true in my heart. I was also trying to be as objective as possible when forming my thoughts.

    1. "Hands Up". No, not really, not from what I could tell. What I saw was more like hands out, as in hands out in front and to the side, palms facing outward, as you would do when telling someone "I don't want any trouble". Small difference, but there is a difference. Body language with hands up implies full surrender. Hands out, as I mentioned, seems to imply not quite a surrender, but more of a "hold on, let's be reasonable". but is NOT aggressive.

    2. His hands weren't completely visible to me the entire time, but I saw no movement I'd consider aggressive (from a shaky, mediocre quality aerial video). However, both hands were clearly visible and empty at the moment I believe he has gunned down.

    3. Too many chiefs, not enough indians. Bear in mind I saw this back when it happened, so my memory may not be absolutely correct, but I know there were at least 3 LEOs there. I could SEE the palpable confusion as he looked around himself at all three as they all shouted orders at him. Possibly conflicting orders.
    We were taught in Military Police, one officer takes charge (usually the first one there or closest to the perp), and the rest need to SHUT THE F**K UP! This was specifically to avoid confusion that could lead to a death.

    4. Final, the most important thing I took away from it...
    It was, to me, very obviously an ambush and execution. I firmly believe they had no intention of letting him survive. He was made an example. A message to the others, "If you don't surrender, you're next."

    Again, I could be wrong. I'm armchair quarterbacking here, just like everyone else. But that's what I saw in the video based on the details I could positively make out.
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    After police killed LaVoy Finicum, Jeanette Finicum takes up her husband's cause ...

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...129-story.html

    Before the police shot and killed her husband, Jeanette Finicum didn't know anything about ranching.

    Since then, she's learned how to castrate cattle, drive a backhoe and a forklift — the kind of work her husband, Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, used to do, before he joined the ill-fated armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon in January 2016.

    She now oversees 80 head of cattle on her family's 16,000-acre allotment of federal grazing land, called "Tuckup," in remote northern Arizona.

    Perhaps 16,000 acres sounds like a lot. (It's 25 square miles, slightly larger than Manhattan, or triple the size of Santa Monica.) But Finicum, 57, calls herself a "very small rancher" — not some big shot.

    "It's actually quite a lot of fun, and I enjoy being out on horseback up on the mountains," Finicum said in an interview on Friday, the two-year anniversary of her husband's death. "It's peaceful. You can just feel God's hand in nature up there."

    Finicum sounded at ease on the phone. But she had just filed a wrongful-death lawsuit seeking at least $5 million in damages on behalf of her family against huge swaths of government — specifically, the United States; the FBI; the Bureau of Land Management; Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.); the Oregon State Police; the governor of Oregon; Harney County, Ore.; a variety of other officials; an ecological activist group; and "John Does 1-100."

    Like LaVoy Finicum, Jeanette Finicum has gotten a taste for fighting the system.

    "We want justice and accountability for the death of my husband, LaVoy," Finicum said. "Our government planned a kill stop out on a remote piece of road where there was no cellphone access; they had planned many days in advance; they had called in a special unit team from D.C., a SEAL team; they had snipers in the trees; they clearly, from their actions, had planned to harm and hurt someone that day, if not everyone."

    Actually, it was an elite FBI Hostage Rescue Team, not Navy SEALs, that had been lying in wait.

    On Jan. 26, 2016, LaVoy Finicum, 54, a spokesman for the occupiers, was leading a two-car convoy on a remote stretch of highway near Burns, Ore., with some of the leaders of the Malheur occupation.

    The occupation started as an armed protest of the nation's federal wildlands policies. No violence had broken out, but the protesters had occupied the refuge's facilities with pistols and rifles, alarming many observers and government officials. And on that day, after waiting more than three weeks, officials decided to put an end to the affair.

    Police pulled up from behind and pulled over Finicum and the driver of the vehicle behind him. Soon, Finicum, driving the lead vehicle, raced away from the traffic stop. But waiting around a curve in the road ahead was a roadblock with armed Oregon State Police and FBI special agents.

    One Oregon State Police trooper fired three shots at Finicum's truck as the rancher sped toward a law enforcement roadblock at 70 mph and crashed into a snowbank on a rural Oregon highway.

    Then, after Finicum got out of the truck, the rancher reached for a loaded gun in his jacket, and two state troopers shot him three times, according to investigators who reviewed the shooting, which was deemed justifiable "and, in fact, necessary," by Malheur County Dist. Atty. Dan Norris.

    The chase and the shooting were also captured by aerial footage that officials soon released, which did little to mollify Finicum's supporters, who were angered by the trap and the fact that Finicum was shot in the back, without a gun in his hand.

    Astarita's indictment was far from the federal government's only black eye involving the occupiers.

    In October 2016, an Oregon jury acquitted seven occupiers of weapons charges and conspiracy to intimidate federal workers. Three had represented themselves. A year later, a Nevada jury acquitted four supporters of the Bundy family, which was involved in a similar armed standoff near Bunkerville, Nev., in 2014.

    Why can't the federal government win convictions against Cliven Bundy and his family? »

    Then, a month ago, a federal judge declared a mistrial Wednesday in a case against ranch patriarch Cliven Bundy and two of his sons after she found that prosecutors "willfully" failed to turn over evidence involving the Nevada standoff.

    So given the government's track record, when Jeannette Finicum files a lawsuit against seemingly everybody on the other side, it's hard to say that the case doesn't have a shot, even though the law often gives ample protections to law enforcement officials accused of wrongful shootings — and even though her complaint starts by comparing the U.S. to North Korea.

    "I don't believe he was 'repeatedly' reaching for a gun," Jeannette Finicum said, responding to the government's account of why Oregon state police shot Finicum. "My husband didn't carry his weapons recklessly like that. He was responsible. He always had been; so I don't believe that theory."

    An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment on the pending litigation.

    Finicum was far from alone after her husband's death. The couple had 12 children, and her advocacy on his behalf — which includes traveling to speaking engagements with ideological supporters — has also attracted an army of well-meaning strangers into her life.

    "I had these two young boys come all the way down from Washington state, stayed two weeks and built three miles of fence," Finicum said. Another "gentleman" helped her fix her truck. "A couple spent their honeymoon with me, just wanted to come out and meet us, went looking for cows. It was just really wonderful."

    She lost a husband, but, Finicum said, "I feel like my family has grown by thousands."
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