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bkt
02-23-2013, 06:21 PM
She's 83, small, frail and fed up with the gun-grabbers. She has never owned a firearm in her life but wants to get one now as a gesture of independence against those who are working on disarming us.

She is unlikely to ever fire it but you never know if she might need to, so I was thinking something along the lines of a Henry lever action .22. Then again, maybe a .38 would be a better caliber.

Taking into account she doesn't want to register anything with the state (which means mag-fed semi-autos are out here in New York), what do you all think? Money isn't really an issue, but she doesn't want to spend more than she has to.

Dillinger
02-23-2013, 06:38 PM
So, she's 83, has never fired a gun before, doesn't want to register with the state, and wants something that will do the job should need arise?

How about one of these?

Ruger LCR 38SPR+ (http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/models.html)

Taurus Model 850 38 Special (http://www.woodburyoutfitters.com/product_p/90405.htm)

S&W Airlite Hammerless 340PD (http://www.lowpriceguns.com/product.php_267424)

S&W Model 642 Hammerless (http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Smith-Wesson-Model-642-Hammerless-Handgun&i=GM443428)

S&W Bodyguard with INSIGHT laser assist (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Handguns/Revolvers-Miscellaneous|/pc/104792580/c/105526980/sc/105527880/Smith-Wesson-BODYGUARD174-Revolvers/1154569.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshoo ting-handguns-revolvers-miscellaneous%2F_%2FN-1102337&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat105527880)

Charter Arms Pink Lady DAO in .38Spl+P (http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_PinkLadyDAO_53831.asp) This is a good gun and one we actually fired at the range. Long trigger pull, but other than that, a great choice.

Hope that helps.

JD

NitroxAZ
02-23-2013, 06:54 PM
Great list JD. Right on point as usual.

Occam's Razor
02-23-2013, 07:16 PM
Ruger SP101 but only load .38 special. Or find a used Smith & Wesson Model 10. Some of the double action only guns can have a hard trigger. The really light guns kick more and a .38 special can feel like .357 magnum.

bkt
02-23-2013, 08:23 PM
All great suggestions, JD, except that *EVERY* handgun has to be registered in New York. She's looking at a long gun only. Because many semi-autos are also registered, now, that's why I mentioned the Henry lever-action.

Dog
02-23-2013, 08:49 PM
I mentioned the Henry lever-action.

I think you have your answer ... based on your mom's info I can't think of a better gun for an elderly woman who is new to firearms. It is easy to handle, shoots naturally and would be less likely for her to have an accident with :)

Dillinger
02-23-2013, 09:52 PM
Every handgun? Move! Seriously. What good is a Henry Rifle in closed quarters like a home invasion?

How about a 410 shotgun? Less recoil than the average. Multiple ammo choices for indoors and outdoors. Weight is in the back end instead of out front with a solid barrel and an under-barrel ammo storage system. :confused:


All great suggestions, JD, except that *EVERY* handgun has to be registered in New York. She's looking at a long gun only. Because many semi-autos are also registered, now, that's why I mentioned the Henry lever-action.

The Galician
02-24-2013, 06:21 AM
Every handgun? Move! Seriously. What good is a Henry Rifle in closed quarters like a home invasion?

How about a 410 shotgun? Less recoil than the average. Multiple ammo choices for indoors and outdoors. Weight is in the back end instead of out front with a solid barrel and an under-barrel ammo storage system. :confused:

Greetings,

May I offer a suggestion? I don't own one but if I were in your situation I would have to agree with JD. And there is a gun that gives you the capabilities of a Judge in a rifle package. Reducing felt recoil and compact with an 18.5 inch barrel.

Rossi Firearms Circuit Judge

BRAND: BrazTech|Rossi
MODEL: Circuit Judge
SAFETY: Transfer Bar, Taurus Security System
TYPE: Rifle|Shotgun
SIGHTS: Fiber Optic Front Sight
CALIBER: 45LC|410 Gauge
BARREL LENGTH: 18.5" Rifled Barrel
FINISH: Blue
OVERALL LENGTH: 38"
ACTION: Double Action
WEIGHT: 4.75 lbs
STOCK: Wood Contoured Monte Carlo, Curved Cheek Rest
PACKAGING: Two Shot Plug
CAPACITY: 5
FEATURES: Scope Mount Base, Hammer Extension
CHOKES: Straight Rifle Choke & Thread Protector Sleeve
FEATURES:
CHAMBER: 3"
BUTT PLATE: Black Rubber Recoil Pad with White Line Spacer
MUZZLE:
RECEIVER: Blue

Price: Maybe $550-$689

Good luck.
S/
K

bkt
02-24-2013, 06:38 AM
Actually, they had one of these at Gander not too long ago. That might be a pretty good option. Thanks!

And JD...I've thought about moving many times. I have family anchors, so I'm not going anywhere right now. Even if I and everyone like me in New York left for Texas, how long would it be before more states followed New York's lead? Oregon has bills that are worse than what New York did. Other states are talking about similar registries and bans.

I'm not sure it matters where you are as much as it matters whether you're willing to stand up to the tyrant-wannabes and refuse to comply.

The Galician
02-24-2013, 07:28 AM
Actually, they had one of these at Gander not too long ago. That might be a pretty good option. Thanks!

And JD...I've thought about moving many times. I have family anchors, so I'm not going anywhere right now. Even if I and everyone like me in New York left for Texas, how long would it be before more states followed New York's lead? Oregon has bills that are worse than what New York did. Other states are talking about similar registries and bans.

I'm not sure it matters where you are as much as it matters whether you're willing to stand up to the tyrant-wannabes and refuse to comply.

I didn't mention this above... but kudo's to your Mom and gratitude to her for at 83 years old showing us that the Constitution is still worth fighting for. My hat is off and appropriate salute rendered.

If we keep moving out of these anti-gun states eventually we will reach a point that is defensible. But I do understand your dillema.

I think it was Rush Limbaugh who quoted some one who said we should divide the country between conservatives and liberals and see how long it would go before the liberals start crawling under our borders because there were no jobs or people working on their side to take revenue from to support their programs.

Again... hats off to Momma bkt.

S/
K

NitroxAZ
02-24-2013, 08:39 AM
I hadn't thought about The Judge, interesting option.

bkt
02-25-2013, 04:50 PM
I didn't mention this above... but kudo's to your Mom and gratitude to her for at 83 years old showing us that the Constitution is still worth fighting for. My hat is off and appropriate salute rendered.

If we keep moving out of these anti-gun states eventually we will reach a point that is defensible. But I do understand your dillema.

I think it was Rush Limbaugh who quoted some one who said we should divide the country between conservatives and liberals and see how long it would go before the liberals start crawling under our borders because there were no jobs or people working on their side to take revenue from to support their programs.

Again... hats off to Momma bkt.

S/
K
Thanks for that. She's a tough old bird and doesn't suffer fools easily (neither do I). It may only be a gesture on her part, but she's good with that.

Vikingdad
03-12-2013, 11:49 PM
My 82-year-old mother has been after me for awhile to take her shooting. I still haven't found the time (I have to pick her up and bring her home as she no longer drives). I am going to keep her on the low recoil stuff but I will give her a go with the AR just to get the pics. She has never fired a gun before in her life, being a dyed-in-the-wool anti-gunner Democrat her whole life. (don't worry, I have more than made up for her shortcomings in those areas!;)).

Not sure if she would ever want to buy one and have it around (not to mention if my brother, whom she lives with, would "allow" it). But she can buy one and keep it at my house!

spittinfire
03-13-2013, 08:47 AM
So, she's 83, has never fired a gun before, doesn't want to register with the state, and wants something that will do the job should need arise?

How about one of these?

Ruger LCR 38SPR+ (http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/models.html)

Taurus Model 850 38 Special (http://www.woodburyoutfitters.com/product_p/90405.htm)

S&W Airlite Hammerless 340PD (http://www.lowpriceguns.com/product.php_267424)

S&W Model 642 Hammerless (http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Smith-Wesson-Model-642-Hammerless-Handgun&i=GM443428)

S&W Bodyguard with INSIGHT laser assist (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Handguns/Revolvers-Miscellaneous|/pc/104792580/c/105526980/sc/105527880/Smith-Wesson-BODYGUARD174-Revolvers/1154569.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshoo ting-handguns-revolvers-miscellaneous%2F_%2FN-1102337&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat105527880)

Charter Arms Pink Lady DAO in .38Spl+P (http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_PinkLadyDAO_53831.asp) This is a good gun and one we actually fired at the range. Long trigger pull, but other than that, a great choice.

Hope that helps.

JD

You left out SP101.