View Full Version : Getting opinions on a possible trade

12-30-2013, 10:43 AM
Don't ask me why but I have a bug to pick up a Marlin in 45-70. Well, I found a local guy wanted to sell or trade one and he is interested in my AR(Yes, the one I built). I've told him I can't sell him the lower and don't really want to strip it so we're talking about the upper only. He doesn't want the scope so I get to keep that along with the mount. So basically I could trade my DPMS Bull 20 upper for a Marlin 1895 Guide Gun in 45-70, with some ammo. There may be some ammo/cash on my end but it would be minimal.

What are your thoughts?

The Galician
12-30-2013, 10:52 AM
What is his address? Seems a good deal to me, especially during this plentiful period we are in.


12-30-2013, 10:56 AM
I can't remember exactly what your upper set up was but a simple search showed:

The upper with bull barrel for $619 http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/DPMS_A3_Lo_Rider_Bull_Barrel_Upper_20_Stainless_S_ p/dpms-lrbb.htm

The Marlin at $599 http://www.basspro.com/Marlin-1895-45/70-GOVT-Lever-Action-Rifle/product/10218339/

Pretty close for a straight swap.

12-30-2013, 11:01 AM
I was thinking straight trade too. How old are the weapons?

12-30-2013, 11:04 AM
He bought his new in 2005. I'm not sure how old mine is but I've probably only put 200 rounds thru it. I got it used for a song back when I was building mine. I think I gave $350 for the upper and it was like new, bolt didn't even have cycling marks on it.

12-30-2013, 11:29 AM
I guess I'm hesitant because it would leave me without an AR, but I don't shoot it much anyway. I really like the upper but for whatever reason the 45-70 bug has bitten.

12-30-2013, 11:34 AM
I would go for a straight trade and think about all the options for a new upper.;)

12-30-2013, 11:43 AM
I would go for a straight trade and think about all the options for a new upper.;)

I was leaning that way...I was also thinking about getting a new upper, more of a "battle use" rifle so to speak that was chambered in 5.56 instead of .223. At the same time, I have a feeling I'll be getting another bull barreled AR if I let this one go.
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12-30-2013, 12:41 PM
a complete rifle for an upper ... I'd go for it :cool:

12-30-2013, 12:54 PM
The only caveat I would mention is the Marlin barrel. I have a number of 45-70 rifles. They all have on thing in common they have "Cut" or Ballard rifling. Many years ago facing economic failure Marlin went to the high production "Micro-Groove" . These barrels have over sized throats and multi-shallow cut rifling.
If you intend to shoot lead in your 45-70 make sure get one with "Ballard" rifling not Micro-Groove. :) At one time "Ranch Dog" Molds were made over sized for Marlin and Browning 1892 rifles which were both Micro-Grooved. The RD Mold company has closed. :(

I have read about the microgroove rifles not liking lead but I’ve never run into it myself in my 22 or 22 mag. I’ve also read where people have shot hard cast lead through the 45-70 with no leading issues. Is this not correct?

12-30-2013, 03:08 PM
From what I can find Marlin got away from the Microgroove in the 1985 somewhere in the mid 90s and this one was made in 05. I still asked him which it had.

12-30-2013, 05:21 PM
I'd go for it.
I love the old lever guns, sounds like an even trade.
You can always buy/build an upper.
You can't hardly build an old lever gun.
My .02$, go for the trade :)